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Geoff Olynyk's avatar

This is going to sound dramatic, but it’s almost starting to feel to me like we need to pursue a “Benedict option” (but for digital tech, not Judeo-Christian conservatism).

That’s the term coined by Christian conservative Rod Dreher in 2013 (though the concept had been floating around for decades before that) that society can’t be saved from secularism, that it’s time for a new monasticism like that of St Benedict, withdrawing into insulated communities to keep the light alive.

There’s a clear analogy to the digital situation.

I see mainstream society enthusiastically embracing AI and going ever deeper into a digital futurism where all social interactions are online; the parents aren’t trying to keep their kids out of it because they themselves are deepening into it every month. I struggle with this myself. (I can’t even do my job without using AI these days, Microsoft is forcing it incredibly aggressively down the throats of everyone who uses a Windows computer or office software for their job.) Within a couple years, teenage boys will have infinite AI-generated porn on demand on their devices. (hell, they already had it for a few months at the end of last year when Musk let xAI/Grok go wild for a few months)

At what point do people who want to raise their kids in a human environment, not a digital environment, need to withdraw into purposeful communities built around that vision?

(Aside: I think the parallel to religious communities is not just a superficial one: religion is one of the few things that makes people truly commit to a cause for multiple decades and make meaningful sacrifice to stay true to it. I think this is why Jonathan Haidt’s blog has become so religious lately. He has the same despair our host here does, and sees intentional Jewish communities as the only lasting solution for him.)

Edit: not to mention Freya India herself, who I believed moved to the U.S. last year and is becoming part of the reactionary Catholic / JD-Vance-aligned scene? I stopped following her substack so I don’t know the latest. But it felt to me in 2024-2025 that she also was seeing religion as the only antidote powerful enough for digital poison.

Audrey Frederick's avatar

Thanks for what you do. These stories are really hard to read.

I have a 10-year old and it’s so tricky as we start to navigate independence. We got him a smart watch so we can easily get in touch bc he loves to ride his bike around town and to his friends homes independently. But because an Apple Watch has to be backed by an iPhone, it didn’t take long for friends to get his number and it turn into wanting the phone a lot. Now something we’re having to walk back. Someone gifted him a TinCan phone recently, so we’re trying to have him start using that instead.

We also had to take away YouTube recently. What turned into a curiosity and watching videos on specifics topics (like fishing) easily turns into a brain-rot tv watching session.

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